Transcript
00:01Thank you very much, and good morning to you ladies and gentlemen and thank you for allowing me to speak to you today.
00:05It is a great privilege to be on the stage to follow both Roger Tomlinson and Jack Dangermond...
00:11...who are both, in my view, gods of this world on this stuff.
00:16In fact, I now feel very much like Brittany Spears' new boyfriend.
00:20I know what's expected of me, but how will I make this interesting for you...
00:26...after having had those two gentlemen speak to you?
00:29Could I ask the man running the lights please to drop the lights on me and this down.
00:35I really would like to if possible share with you as I'm speaking 'cause I'm pretty boring.
00:41I'd like to share with you some lovely templates of photos from my home country of New Zealand.
00:47And to show you that I have a little bit of a background in this area, I want to tell you that I did do a degree...
00:54...a master's degree in operations research.
00:57I wrote, assembled a code for mainframe computers, moved to Fortran, COBOL, and PL/1.
01:03None of this will mean anything to the new generation of people who...
01:07...don't know what working with program cards are, but I still dabble in writing.
01:12I'm a very sick person.
01:13I write in Visual Basic and C++ from time to time just to keep my hand in.
01:17And I think it's fair to say because I'm on record in New Zealand saying...
01:21...well in advance of a whole lot of the technologies coming.
01:23I remember telling the cabinet many, many years ago that the Internet was going to change everything about our lives.
01:31And the prime minister at the time used to make fun of me and said...
01:34..."You reckon this thing called the Internet when it comes really going to be that big?"
01:38Well, I've got a lovely photo. Jack showed you a photo from the old days.
01:41Can we drop these lights even more? I really want to get that as clear as I can up there.
01:45That's a photo of me with the first IBM PC in New Zealand.
01:49I was still playing rugby, and we were still winning in those days.
01:54And I got that in September of 1981 and you know the IBM PC was only released in August of 1981...
02:02...so we've got the first one in New Zealand at Air New Zealand.
02:05So I programmed that damned little thing with [Visual] Basic and, boy, was that hard going.
02:09You don't know how lucky you are to have some of the sophisticated machines you've got today.
02:14But the point I wanted to talk to you all today about was just how appalling one element of information has been for us all.
02:24We know what a win means.
02:26A win can be a date, and every one of you will know what the 27th of July is.
02:32When it's put on a spreadsheet or it's put on a graph or whatever, you'll know that and you'll know what...
02:37...if we've got a graph of wheat that has been growing and you'll know how much.
02:41If I said it was 3.75 tons, you know what that means.
02:45And you'll even know its value if it was $4,720 of value.
02:51You'll even know where it might have been sourced from or how it was produced.
02:55But the where.
02:57If I was to tell you it came from Kaikoura or Ngaruawahia, you wouldn't have a clue.
03:03Actually some people in New Zealand don't even know where that is.
03:05But you wouldn't have a clue.
03:07And from my perspective, the real big gains that we can make now are turning that into information...
03:13...that is visible and that human beings can see.
03:16What I have is a vision in New Zealand already of being able to take maps of our cities or our towns or even our rural areas...
03:24...and overlay on them things like demand for services, layers and layers of things like the police information...
03:33...our hospital services information, social service delivery, then draw lassos around specific suburbs within that town...
03:41...find out where the shortfall is, look at that carefully...
03:45...and decide whereabouts we need to provide more product and more services.
03:51And so today, ladies and gentlemen, my speech is called Geospatial - The Next Frontier.
03:56Because I'm absolutely convinced, I really...I'm referred to back in New Zealand as an e-vangelist...
04:02...and I'm so pleased that this is a Sunday morning and I'm up here on the pulpit as an e-vangelist...
04:08...because I do feel evangelical about this whole GIS revolution.
04:14It is the next frontier.
04:16I still think we're standing on the beach at Kitty Hawk watching a flimsy piece of balsa wood and material get flying.
04:23But in the future, I actually have views that in my mathematics background, not only will you do all the knowledge creation...
04:29...and presentation that Jack Dangermond referred to...
04:32...but stunning mathematical applications that will go on and do...
04:35...solution spaces and give you the most optimal allocation of where your next hospital service...
04:42...or next routing network or water systems should be.
04:45So I think there's a great chance of taking it even, even further.
04:50What I'd like to talk now is about a few of the things, the satellite systems of the world that are going to change things.
04:57By 2015, 200 earth observation satellites will be up there.
05:02Thirty will be above the horizon at any one time.
05:05Organizations like Skyhook are now using over 200,000 Wi-Fi transmitters in the world...
05:12...to position yourself by just triangulating on what your Wi-Fi signal is.
05:17And now there are some of the smartphone devices, I don't know whether you've seen it...
05:20...but an iPhone 4, it's now got embedded inertial devices in it.
05:25And so, therefore, when you lose signal from a satellite, like while we're in this building, we have no satellite signal to us.
05:33But because the iPhone 4 has inertial in it...
05:35...it will mean you can now move around in a shopping mall or in an underground car park...
05:41...and still keep your exact geographic location because the inertial will pick up once you've lost satellite contact.
05:48So imagine what that does when you are trying to present features to, say, the customer as a retailer.
05:54You'll be able to wander through the shopping malls and as your iPhone tells you you are now in front of JCPenney...
06:01...and whatever the sort of specials for the day will be able to be brought up onto the screen.
06:06So just quite staggering stuff.
06:09I think the other thing that Jack referred to was the crowd source data information.
06:14And my secretary asked me the other day, you know it's all very well to talk about this crowd sourced information...
06:20...but how can we be sure that it's got value?
06:23And I think the most interesting research I've seen on this came from Michael Goodchild at the University of California...
06:30...who actually found that the levels of uncertainty in data sourced from very large crowds was no greater or lesser level...
06:38...of error than the traditional forms of information.
06:42And so in New Zealand now we're using stuff from the cell sites from the cars to come back to the transport operators...
06:52...to tell us where there is congestion on our motorways because the cell sites recognize how fast you're moving between them...
07:00...and when you're on a particular motorway slowing down, that crowd source data becomes absolutely vital.
07:09So as minister for land information in New Zealand and as minister for statistics, I have got the religion.
07:16I fervently believe the opportunities that geospatial will present us, I believe they're enormous.
07:22If we capture them right, they will make huge, huge gains to the nation into the future.
07:28We commissioned a report, which was published in August of last year, called Spatial Information in the...
07:33...New Zealand Economy - Realizing Productivity Gains, and this document was a very good basis for us to proceed.
07:43It suggested that already we were reaping about $1.2 billion of productivity benefits and that's just productivity benefits alone...
07:53...from our geospatial world and that in fact there were huge gains to be made if we got all of the government departments...
08:01...and as many private sector operators as we could to expose their data publicly in a geospatial way.
08:09Now there are some fantastic examples in New Zealand already of this happening.
08:13A company called Ravensdown Fertilizer that goes out with the trucks as you see up there and spreads fertilizer onto the farms...
08:21...is using GIS, and actually GPS, onboard the trucks to guarantee that they are not recovering the same paddocks...
08:28...second and third time and have made huge efficiency gains in the way that works.
08:34Another good example would be our New Zealand dairying industry.
08:38Look at that. Isn't that a beautiful shot? Cool, eh.
08:41The New Zealand dairy industry which is our big main supplier of overseas revenue, now the whole milk tankers...
08:48...that collect the milk are all on GIS and GPS and are scheduled by computers as to when the vats will be full of milk...
08:56...on a farm and when to go onto particular roads and start picking up and also the technology for...
09:02...supplying and transporting that milk back across the world.
09:07And, isn't that lovely? That's Milford Sound.
09:08That's a beautiful lake in the bottom of the South Island.
09:12And our tourism industry with its 100 percent pure initiative is now making custom maps for tourists.
09:18Whenever you arrive in New Zealand, you can go to their Web site, tell it whereabouts in the country you wish to travel...
09:24...and then you can produce your own custom-based maps.
09:28And the geospatial solutions are also used by the sector big time to realize the flow of tourists...
09:33...where they're coming in at one part of the country, where they're going to, and then where they're departing from.
09:39So we're using it lots and lots and lots.
09:47We're already, I think, leaders in some areas.
09:50We have a system in New Zealand for both survey and land titles registration called Land Online.
09:58And I would have to say that I think it's an absolute benchmark for the world and, in fact, the World Bank thinks so.
10:06When they published their doing business report this year...
10:09...we were ranked number two in the world overall for the least regulation.
10:15In a local newspaper survey of all government departments, Land Information, the department that I minister for...
10:21...gave us a number one ranking for ease of doing business, budget performance, and quality of service...
10:26...and there we can see registering properties in New Zealand alone.
10:29That is the titles, the actual definitions of the land title, and how you can register them online...
10:35...we came in at number three in the world.
10:38:It's pretty cool really.
10:40But can I tell you that in my view there are huge, huge areas of our lives still requiring a lot, a lot of work in the GIS space.
10:48In agriculture, we're looking to do things like yield monitoring, pest and disease management, mining and resources.
10:54New Zealand has under its surface huge resources of mineral wealth but we need to get into some predictive exploration...
11:02...to make sure we don't go and damage highly important conservation of state land...
11:07...if we don't know exactly what value we're extracting from it.
11:11Through to the construction and forestry and fisheries and property and service industries, transport and storage and utilities.
11:17And I'm sorry that I'm just repeating a whole lot of what both Roger and Jack said.
11:21But frankly, it's great to know that sitting at the sort of wrong side of world and down the bottom, we think the same as you do up here.
11:33Okay.
11:34I just wanted to show you some dolphins swimming just for the sake of it.
11:38So there is a role in my view for the government to invest in the national data infrastructure, spatial data infrastructure.
11:45As our economy becomes more knowledge driven and, believe me...
11:49...I actually want to take it the next step on from knowledge to wisdom...
11:52...because I think knowledge is great but getting to wisdom level is even better.
11:56And if you want a really good definition of knowledge is knowing that tomato is a fruit and wisdom is not using it in a fruit salad.
12:07So, as our economy becomes more knowledge driven...
12:11...infrastructure is underpinning that and the maintenance and use of that is critical.
12:16So there's a real balance we're trying to get in New Zealand.
12:18The government's got a role to provide what I think is sort of open platform...
12:23...exposing all of the datasets we've got so they can be publicly used.
12:27But as Roger said, I'm from the right of politics and I really like the private sector to flourish...
12:33...and we want them to be able to participate really, really well if they can.
12:37Boy, imagine to be able to drink all the wine from that.
12:40So the knowledge infrastructure goes way beyond the infrastructure in the traditional sense of roads and buildings.
12:45It's how we've always thought in New Zealand under the old industrial age mindset of roads and buildings.
12:52But frankly now it's in my view getting to sort of create, share, and use knowledge.
12:57And that is to me where we're going to be really cooking with gas when we can get that and get it working.
13:02So as part of the government and as a minister of a number of portfolios, we're putting in place policies, standards...
13:09...regulatory and technology frameworks that will assist with sector capability building.
13:14And believe me, that's very short on the ground at present.
13:18It'll accelerate the adoption of this technology across the entire economy.
13:22You are really, really shortsighted if you think this only applies to very, very few individual areas of the economy.
13:31And we're trying to stimulate innovation by improving access to existing government-held data.
13:36That's hugely important as far as I'm concerned.
13:38The government holds a phenomenal repository of data but it's not yet been made available.
13:45Now the investment in the digital infrastructure for spatial information is, in my view, a high-impact, cross-cutting intervention.
13:53There's been quite a lot of those studies that I've talked about before showing that...
13:57...the productivity improvements were 5 to 1 and ranging up as far as 50 to 1.
14:03And there were, as I said, pure productivity benefits. There were lots of other benefits you could quantify as well.
14:10And the government, because we're focused on trying to grow our GDP and get us back to being a wealthy nation...
14:15...we think that the whole spatial data infrastructure is a priority for not just the land information portfolio but right across all portfolios.
14:26We've got a New Zealand geospatial strategy.
14:29It's focused on developing that whole national spatial data infrastructure.
14:34And Lands officials are working with all departments across the state sector to make sure that we're focused on delivering those key goals...
14:41...governance, data, access, and interoperability that Jack Dangermond spoke so well about before I did.
14:48We've also done something else which is a bit unusual.
14:50I have written to all ministers including the prime minister and asked them to take control of every one of their departments...
14:57...and give them a good stern telling off if they don't understand.
15:02It was interesting.
15:03I had somebody from our corrections department.
15:05That's the people who run the prisons, saying, Oh, that was a great presentation, but, you know, GIS doesn't mean much to us.
15:13And I got so angry because I said if you realized just how much efficiency you could gain out of running...
15:18...the correction service with good quality GIS, you would be staggered.
15:25That's a photo of the hole where we throw officials who don't, who don't sign up to GIS.
15:33They go right down there. That's where they go.
15:36There's a whole group of them over here on the side waiting to go next.
15:41They've got it I think now.
15:43And so I have to say, and I don't expect you to be able to even begin to read these...
15:47...but we've got a ministerial committee for data reuse and exposing it.
15:51We're proof of concepting a Web site called data.gov.nz which is about making sure all of government data is made available.
16:00Statistics Department, that is one of mine, is working with land information to remove barriers to reuse.
16:07I won't bore you with actually trying to read that.
16:09I'd rather show you a lovely photo of a mountain scene which will make you feel calm again.
16:14And but we are doing some particularly staggering stuff simply because we truly believe the value of this stuff...
16:23...and the merits that are flowing to our economy from doing so.
16:27And it is not just central government.
16:29There are some really good examples of local government.
16:32For example, the Northland Regional Council, which is a council for a big chunk of the top of the North Island...
16:39...has granted access under a creative commons license to approximately 90 percent of all the data they hold in their GIS database.
16:48They've done overflyings with magnificent high-definition film and photos and then they've actually taken all of their services...
16:56...from water and wastewater and electricity cables and gas and made all of the data of that publicly available...
17:03...through a creative commons license so that a lot of work can be done on it.
17:08It is, in my view, quite stunning.
17:13The report I told you before also found one of the big barriers we have to this area is a lack of skills and knowledge...
17:20...relating to modern spatial information technology.
17:23Just like there was a gap as new information technology systems...
17:27...through the IBM PC created a lack of quality people in the marketplace.
17:33The GIS is actually showing up that we do not have enough well-trained people.
17:39And so in New Zealand we've embarked on a number of projects to do so.
17:42I want to congratulate Eagle Technology, a company that's here today, for having helped in terms of getting a learning portal...
17:50...to make GIS software widely accessible to all our schools and start creating a level of enthusiasm...
17:56...a level of excitement that will really get people going.
18:01It creates a, it brings together educational institutions, private and government sector people...
18:07...and professional industry bodies to make things happen.
18:10Industry and the government are really desperately trying to lift the capability across New Zealand.
18:16And one other area where I think we're making a big change is we've got four of our major universities...
18:21...Auckland, Canterbury, Otago, and Victoria who are working on and actually have got developed a collaboratively...
18:28...a master's of GIS program which they aim to start taking students into at the beginning of next year.
18:35It's a phenomenally exciting looking program which I think will really do some wonders to...
18:42...whenever you don't want to go kayaking that is, to do some studying.
18:46Okay.
18:48Now I want to just give a little bit of a compliment to one of our New Zealand government departments...
18:51...and that is the Ministry for the Environment who will be getting an award here at this conference on Wednesday I think it is.
18:58They have developed a thing in New Zealand called the Land Use and Carbon Analysis System.
19:03It's known as LUCAS.
19:05It's a project of work to measure and monitor the carbon stocks of New Zealand's forests and soils.
19:12It's reporting that's required under our obligations under the Kyoto Protocol...
19:16...and the United Nations' framework convention on climate change.
19:20LUCAS will indeed be a phenomenally valuable tool for future international climate change negotiations.
19:26We're struggling like every other country in the world to meet our obligations but not to impose huge costs onto our nation.
19:34And so I think that's making a big difference.
19:37So that's it for me in a summary.
19:38Can I just say I believe spatial information contributes widely to productivity in our country already.
19:46And we are looking to take that even further.
19:49Spatial information and technology will play a major and a much greater role in the future...
19:55...and that is going to just ramp up a doubling of a doubling of a doubling.
19:58Although Jack, there has to have an end to it, 'cause I understand if you fold an A4 sheet of paper over...
20:04...and doubling it 64 times, it reaches past the moon.
20:08So you can't get more customers than that.
20:11Spatial data infrastructure is a priority area and not just in the land information portfolio but right across a whole of government.
20:19If you don't get a whole of government approach to this, you'll end up with little "Towers of Babel" that won't be able to...
20:25...talk to each other and therefore you won't be able to reap the benefits of that.
20:29We've got some frameworks in place already.
20:32The New Zealand geospatial strategy which is in place, and we're developing another one which is the...
20:37...New Zealand Goal framework about sharing and collective licensing of such.
20:44So everyone in the geospatial community has a role to play.
20:48We all have to do that. We need to keep working together.
20:51Thank you very much for your attention.
20:53It's hard to be a politician and come along and talk to people from the technology sector because...
20:58...most of you think that politicians are like diapers.
21:03They should be changed regularly and for the same reason.
21:18But I'm not going to finish yet. But wait.
21:20Just like you get at JCPenney's, wait there's more.
21:23I want to give you one little ad for New Zealand in 2011.
21:28I'm wearing the badge because in New Zealand in 2011, Jack, it won't be Holland against Spain.
21:33The New Zealand rugby world cup will be hosted.
21:35Thank you very much.
Geospatial: The Next Frontier
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